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05. 10 2008

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[06:40:30] <rcscomp> I am getting a problem with a jinja template: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe2.
[06:40:40] <rcscomp> Where do I go from that?
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[08:28:18] <rcscomp> still getting the above error. Can anyone tell me someting I can do to get around this? Do I need to configure jinja differently?
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[08:52:59] <birkenfeld> rcscomp: where exactly does that error occur?
[08:54:17] <rcscomp> birkenfield: in the escape filter, but also when I remove the escape filter. All I am doing is {{ object.field|e }}
[08:54:58] <rcscomp> the problem is being caused by typographic characters
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[08:55:56] <rcscomp> sorry, IM client crashed
[09:03:59] <EnTeQuAk> rcscomp, do you have a full traceback for us?
[09:05:28] <rcscomp> EnteQuaAk: unfortunately, not at the moment. I already got rid of all the characters from the DB. Hang on a second and I will try to reproduce.
[09:07:42] <rcscomp> EnTeQuAk: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/87078/
[09:08:25] <rcscomp> I made that with by putting the following character in my DB in the section_title field: ”
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[09:20:20] <EnTeQuAk> rcscomp, wherever you get `section_title` from, it needs to be an unicode string.
[09:20:38] <EnTeQuAk> so, `t.render(foo=u'„cool“')` instead of `t.render(foo='„cool“')`
[09:22:42] <rcscomp> EnTeQuAk: hmmm...well, I am using Werkzeug, so I thought everything i was working with from a POST was UTF-8
[09:23:01] <EnTeQuAk> oh
[09:23:19] <rcscomp> EnTeQuAk: but that doesn't mean I haven't messed something up in the middle or in the DB
[09:27:40] <EnTeQuAk> well, I have no idea... for now – you could check if you get some unicode from the database – this should work
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[09:31:03] <rcscomp> EnTeQuAk: I think i get UTF-8 from the database. It is Postgres and I think that is what I set the DBs to have by default.
[09:31:29] <birkenfeld> rcscomp: UTF-8 or Unicode strings?
[09:32:26] <rcscomp> birkenfeld: I just don't know, sorry. I use sqlalchemy and have declared those fields as Unicode()
[09:38:49] <birkenfeld> rcscomp: it still seems they are not unicode strings. can you repr() them at some stageß
[09:40:45] <rcscomp> birkenfeld: possibly. I will mess with it more this week. Going to head to bed now. Thanks for looking into it though, I appreciate your willingness to help.
[09:41:01] <birkenfeld> good night then ;)
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[13:35:32] <delroth> hi all, I just wrote a lexer for the Reia programming language, but I can't create a ticket on the Trac
[13:36:09] <delroth> http://delroth.is-a-geek.org/reia.diff
[13:37:06] <prencher> delroth - if it's an account creation problem, you can make one on the werkzeug trac and then use that on the pygments one
[13:37:32] <delroth> the account is already created and I can login, but I can't create any ticket
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[13:52:18] <mitsuhiko> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/87100/ :D
[13:55:35] <tux21b> mitsuhiko, are you working on the wiki during your horrible-inet-free-time?
[13:55:46] <tux21b> and hi btw :)
[13:56:14] <birkenfeld> mitsuhiko: uh, bool([None]) is True
[13:56:23] <birkenfeld> you need an "if match"
[13:57:02] <mitsuhiko> birkenfeld: indeed. but it wasn't a serious attempt anyways :D
[13:57:10] <birkenfeld> ^^
[13:57:42] <tux21b> mitsuhiko, btw, EnTeQuAk has found the local_manager.cleanup bug
[13:58:35] <tux21b> and that's how the local_cache has improved the load: http://www.tux21b.org/public/local-cache-cpu.png http://www.tux21b.org/public/local-cache-eth.png http://www.tux21b.org/public/local-cache-mem.png
[14:00:09] <mitsuhiko> tux21b: what's the bug?
[14:00:53] <tux21b> mitsuhiko, http://dev.pocoo.org/hg/werkzeug-main/rev/551368a4167b
[14:01:24] <mitsuhiko> ?
[14:01:35] <mitsuhiko> ukay. and how does that fix something?
[14:01:58] <mitsuhiko> ah. i see
[14:03:01] <birkenfeld> tux21b: you forgot to passwort-protect those screenshots
[14:03:22] <tux21b> birkenfeld, i don't think they are critical, are they?
[14:03:58] <birkenfeld> well, it starts like this, and perhaps next time you'll paste *actual* code snippets on paste.pocoo.org...
[14:04:05] <birkenfeld> you can't let yourself slip like this
[14:05:15] <tux21b> birkenfeld, yeah, thanks for watching over me ;)
[14:05:26] <birkenfeld> happy to
[14:10:56] <welterde> delroth: nice!
[14:27:21] <delroth> welterde: thanks :)
[14:46:25] * Leonidas submits the screenshots to reddit now
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[14:47:41] <welterde> Leonidas: which screenshot? ;)
[14:48:28] <Leonidas> welterde: the top secret system load graphics from some of the ubuntuusers servers ^^
[14:49:01] <welterde> ah!
[14:49:11] * tux21b thinks that Leonidas will never manage to get them mentioned on reddit
[14:49:55] <Leonidas> tux21b: right, most of what I submit gets burried imediately. Even stuff that is actually interesting.
[14:50:27] <welterde> Leonidas: reddit hates you ;)
[14:51:33] <Leonidas> welterde: reddit hates facts that prove that lisp doesn't suck as hard as they always tell. Yeah, so they hate me
[14:51:42] <mitsuhiko> muhaha: http://lh5.ggpht.com/eddie.con.carne/SIkCmD0HesI/AAAAAAAABDQ/Kffl03exXxM/vistamag.jpg
[14:52:13] <Leonidas> photoshopdisasters ftw!
[14:53:14] <welterde> Leonidas: hmmm... not the other way around?
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[14:54:26] <Leonidas> welterde: no. Lately they have been complaining about how bad Lisp is, and that there are no web frameworks and tutorials. When I submitted a tutorial for LParen I got downmodded immediately.
[14:56:41] <welterde> reddit sucks anyway imho ;)
[14:56:56] <welterde> *waits*
[14:59:20] * tux21b likes reddit more than digg
[15:00:00] <Leonidas> welterde: it was better some months ago. maybe Hackernews is going to be the next reddit.
[15:00:15] <welterde> Leonidas: hackernews?
[15:00:33] <Leonidas> welterde: http://news.ycombinator.com/
[15:01:07] <Leonidas> welterde: on the first page you see a posting by kn0thing, a reddit employee
[15:03:35] * welterde wants tags ;)
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[15:15:11] <prencher> hello mr grumpy
[15:17:28] <grumpy> prencher: hi, fwiw, threading.local() probably works as one expect when WSGIApplicationGroup is %{GLOBAL}
[15:18:17] <prencher> oh?
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[16:14:39] <tux21b> does here anyone know a gtk svn tool, to browse revision histories (including the diffs of the changesets) similar to hgview?
[16:17:54] <asmodai> The Call for Papers for ApacheCon Europe 2009, to be held in Amsterdam, from
[16:17:55] <asmodai> +23rd to 27th March, is now open! Submit your proposals at
[16:17:55] <asmodai> +http://eu.apachecon.com/c/aceu2009/cfp/ before 24th October.
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[16:25:41] <EnTeQuAk> tux21b, turtoisesvn or rapidsvn (one of both runs under linux – I think)
[16:25:50] <EnTeQuAk> but still, it's not gtk afair
[16:26:34] <EnTeQuAk> (well, as it seems only rapidsvn runs under linux)
[16:34:32] <tux21b> EnTeQuAk, it's slow and not as useable as hgview, but that might because of the svn backend. anyway thx :)
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[19:27:38] <tux21b> mitsuhiko, PIIIINNGGG :D
[19:29:42] <apollo13> hell bzr is really slow, or is it just launchpad?
[19:32:05] <EnTeQuAk> it's bzr ;)
[19:32:10] <prencher> it's both
[19:32:26] <EnTeQuAk> and bzr :D
[19:32:39] <prencher> also bzr
[19:36:56] <tux21b> it's lp
[19:37:01] <tux21b> and mostly bzr ;)
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[19:51:29] <prencher> ubuntu peoples.. is there a way to install a package without getting perl dependencies?
[19:51:47] <prencher> it seems to insist on those glue libs, even though we don't want em
[19:51:51] <sebner> prencher: depending on the package :P
[19:52:39] <prencher> mysql-server in this case
[19:56:59] <apollo13> sure
[19:57:05] <apollo13> dpkg -i --force-all *runs*
[19:57:28] <apollo13> should ignore all dependencies
[19:57:43] <apollo13> or at least only warn you but continue with the installation
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[20:52:01] <EnTeQuAk> maddiin, I just set up the new repository. check it out – http://www.bitbucket.org/EnTeQuAk/dmlt/ :D
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[21:37:46] <Dauerbaustelle> Hello, using werkzeug, how can I redirect to a view url parsing parameters to the function itself (not to the url!)? If this doesn't work, how can I "set" the url showed in the browser url bar (like redirect)?
[21:42:33] <Dauerbaustelle> or is there another way to redirect, for example, if "/delete" fails, to "/list", parsing parameters? I could render the list-template, but the "/delete" url would stay
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[23:09:07] <CIA-49> Jinja 2: mitsuhiko trunk * 587:ad5d8733f0e7 / (16 files in 4 dirs): Various cleanups and added custom cycler.
[23:10:00] <ronny> mitsuhiko: sup on zine?
[23:10:18] <mitsuhiko> i have some nearly untested local changes not ready for pushing yet
[23:11:02] <ronny> well, pre-big change is broken, too, cant post messages for some reason, so im waiting to fix it
[23:11:10] <ronny> well, and crying about hg's license
[23:13:14] <tux21b> mitsuhiko, btw, i think you have entered a wrong b-day in skype ;)
[23:13:51] <mitsuhiko> and deleted
[23:14:03] <mitsuhiko> what's wrong with hg's license?
[23:14:56] <apollo13> mitsuhiko: is the one in studivz the right one?
[23:18:44] <mitsuhiko> if it's the 10th of may, then yes
[23:20:33] <apollo13> okay
[23:20:40] <apollo13> how are you?
[23:20:46] <apollo13> ready for tomorrow?
[23:21:35] <mitsuhiko> hope so :)
[23:22:01] <apollo13> I am there from 8:15 to 14:30 or something like it
[23:22:28] <empty> apollo13: what are you doing?
[23:22:40] <apollo13> sitting in front of my laptop empty?
[23:22:48] <apollo13> or when and where do you mean?
[23:22:52] <empty> apollo13: I meant tomorrow.
[23:22:57] <empty> sorry
[23:23:00] <apollo13> university :þ
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[23:23:05] <empty> oh nice
[23:23:16] <empty> mitsuhiko too?
[23:23:18] <apollo13> yeah
[23:23:27] <empty> wow so like you guys hang out and stuff.
[23:23:30] <mitsuhiko> that's such a great theme, i want it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=dust-0917-screenshot.jpg
[23:23:37] <apollo13> but different subject
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[23:23:51] <mitsuhiko> ...because mister florian decided to study physics :P
[23:23:57] <empty> mitsuhiko: great theme
[23:24:04] <apollo13> mitsuhiko: you miss the technical
[23:24:14] <apollo13> that makes a whole difference
[23:24:32] <apollo13> mitsuhiko: btw you are free to make the theme, not as gay as last time ;)
[23:25:08] <apollo13> empty: at least now I need 15 minutes to mitsuhiko instead of an hour ;)
[23:25:19] <mitsuhiko> you mean this one? http://dev.pocoo.org/~mitsuhiko/eee-maennlich.png ^^
[23:26:02] <empty> eww, that's almost "Django My Little Pony" theme
[23:26:03] <sebner> *ahhhhhhhhh*
[23:26:27] <sebner> mitsuhiko: skype, studivz? that's so mainstream. where is your geekness :P
[23:26:47] <mitsuhiko> can't imagine a time where i wasn't mainstream
[23:27:17] <sebner> mitsuhiko: before you used studivz and skype :P
[23:27:50] <apollo13> mitsuhiko: btw I had those irc disconnects you have too today, but it got away...
[23:28:11] <apollo13> maybe it's hetzner and not inode ;)
[23:28:13] <mitsuhiko> sebner: then i used icq and mail
[23:28:21] <mitsuhiko> apollo13: no, it's not hetzner
[23:28:28] <mitsuhiko> i only have that problem on inode
[23:28:43] <apollo13> odd
[23:28:51] <sebner> mitsuhiko: mail is ok. well icq ... ^^ but you also have jabber ;)
[23:29:23] <mitsuhiko> apollo13: do you have package loss in mtr to google.com?
[23:29:31] <mitsuhiko> because i do Oo
[23:29:53] <mitsuhiko> sebner: which i don't use that much
[23:29:59] <sebner> mitsuhiko: btw, I build a new pc for my family and guess what's running. ubuntu ^^ (8.10) ^^
[23:30:00] <mitsuhiko> i tried to, a while ago
[23:30:01] <apollo13> just mtr google.com ?
[23:30:05] <mitsuhiko> yep
[23:30:59] <apollo13> mitsuhiko: just on retries, eg the first comes down with 0.0% all over, but subsequent (just letting mtr run further) give me package loss too
[23:31:16] <sebner> mitsuhiko: no success?
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[23:32:27] <mitsuhiko> apollo13: well, no problem from hammett to google :)
[23:32:40] <mitsuhiko> so i don't think that's a problem with hetzner
[23:33:04] <apollo13> mitsuhiko: maybe cisco vpn^^
[23:33:11] <mitsuhiko> i'm not using the vpn right now
[23:33:23] <_paneb> in a pylons controller, i can set the response status code, and then return some content. how would i go about doing something like that using werkzeug?
[23:33:42] <mitsuhiko> return Response("content", status=403)
[23:34:34] <apollo13> mitsuhiko: I am running through aco.net here and get most of the losses their, I guess I'll post it on news.tugraz.at ;)
[23:35:51] <apollo13> n8 kinners
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