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15. 10 2008

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[11:39:01] <asmodai> ~the devil has shown me the way~
[11:39:05] <asmodai> birkenfeld: oi!
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[16:57:39] <adaran> will anyone be so kind and give me some feedback on http://dpaste.com/84611/ ? -- it's an implementation of jinja2 template support for django by wrapping some of its internals (does not break generic views)
[17:00:15] <apollo13> adaran: I guess it might break the admin site
[17:00:39] <adaran> apollo13, it does not, as long as you do not add admin templates to settings.JINJA2_TEMPLATE_DIRS
[17:01:05] <adaran> apollo13, line 55
[17:01:47] <apollo13> adaran: I see :)
[17:01:48] <adaran> apollo13, it only returns jinja2 templates for those dirs you specified there. everything else gets rendered by django's own templates
[17:01:57] <apollo13> looks good
[17:02:07] <apollo13> (from what I can say, without testing
[17:02:09] <adaran> that's the best i could come up with so far. i'm rather pleased, because it hooks in so late, you can use everything else
[17:02:20] <apollo13> but I wouldn't call it magic
[17:02:27] <apollo13> let it be pony()^^
[17:02:27] <adaran> how 'bout voodoo() ?
[17:02:31] <adaran> oh
[17:02:39] <adaran> hehe
[17:02:46] <adaran> good idea, then finally django will come with a pony() =)
[17:03:03] <adaran> maybe magic_pony() ?
[17:03:14] <aa_> that's unicorn()
[17:04:04] <adaran> hmm
[17:04:57] <adaran> allright, it stays at magic() until there is consent whether it should be magic(), voodoo(), magic_pony(), unicorn() or magic_hippopotamus()
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[19:14:51] <asmodai> silly people
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[19:35:31] <prencher> asmodai is more silly
[19:42:35] <asmodai> True.
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[20:06:22] <asmodai> *watches curse.com melt*
[20:07:56] <apollo13> hu, why that?
[20:08:33] <asmodai> few hundred thousand people updating WoW mods :)
[20:08:36] <asmodai> or addons
[20:09:11] <apollo13> hehe
[20:15:37] <asmodai> I'm sure Kaelten is having fun :D
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[20:30:32] <prencher> whoa, certainly is slow
[20:31:35] <prencher> 21 seconds to load it, only 878kb
[20:31:48] <prencher> 68 requests .. seems staticbeta/mediabeta is melting
[20:32:23] <prencher> so much for asp.net saving them on patch day ey :p
[20:33:16] <birkenfeld> asmodai: so, how's the next book?
[20:34:24] <asmodai> dunno
[20:34:39] <asmodai> waiting for the paper back
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[20:39:17] <birkenfeld> ah, like me
[20:39:42] <asmodai> Don't have the space for those hard cover
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[20:46:51] <rafiu> hey what happened to the pocoo forum/bbs software
[20:48:04] <apollo13> nothing
[20:48:14] <apollo13> it's dead, at least kind of
[20:48:19] <rafiu> apollo13: ic
[20:48:36] <apollo13> ubuntuusers.de runs a software that might become the replacement for it
[20:48:38] <apollo13> (maybe)
[20:49:00] <rafiu> what software is that?
[20:49:43] <apollo13> the one we write currently
[20:50:02] <rafiu> where can i find it?
[20:50:10] <apollo13> a combination of werkzeug jinja2 sqlalchemy and some django stuff. last one is about to fly out ;)
[20:50:12] <apollo13> nowhere
[20:50:17] <apollo13> it's not os yet
[20:50:21] <rafiu> ah ok
[20:50:31] <Kaelten> asmodai: fun?
[20:50:35] <asmodai> haha
[20:50:37] <asmodai> yes!
[20:50:38] <asmodai> :D
[20:50:40] <asmodai> *runs*
[20:50:40] <Kaelten> heh
[20:50:46] <Kaelten> we're setting records this patch day
[20:50:48] <Kaelten> its crazy
[20:50:54] <asmodai> Show me the numbers
[20:51:17] <Kaelten> um, our web stack is handling > 4k req/s
[20:51:39] <Kaelten> prencher: ^
[20:52:25] <asmodai> oh wow
[20:52:32] <asmodai> is that all just curse.com portal?
[20:52:37] <Kaelten> yes
[20:52:47] <asmodai> good thing you recently did the tuning :)
[20:52:59] <Kaelten> thats not counting the client's data service, wowace, curseforge, or static
[21:12:27] <prencher> Kaelten - that may be, but it's still pretty slow
[21:13:22] <prencher> it's reeeeheeeelly slow in fact, taking well over 20 seconds for pretty much any page
[21:13:57] <prencher> it may not be dying, but i wouldn't call 20 second pages a scaling success
[21:14:06] <Kaelten> 20 seconds?
[21:14:41] <prencher> yes, thats what it took when i accessed the 3.0.2 patch notes news item
[21:15:00] <prencher> to be fair, the aspx stuff comes through pretty fast, its staticbeta.curse thats killing it
[21:15:27] <apollo13> 20 seconds? nothing here yet, still waiting
[21:15:49] <prencher> http://www.curse.com/articles/wow-en-news/293551.aspx this page to be specific
[21:20:03] <prencher> Kaelten - once the static stuff has come through and it starts hitting 304s, it seems to be pretty good, but
[21:20:12] <prencher> it does seem to be static thats killing it, not the asp.net
[21:21:11] <Kaelten> the static servers are pushing out ~ 3Gbits/s
[21:21:35] <Kaelten> we're looking to see if its reasonable to upgrade capacity
[21:22:22] <prencher> maybe your site assets shouldn't be on the same servers that are serving up addons :P
[21:22:47] <prencher> or on the same pipe i guess, since the asp.net seems to come through really fast
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[21:27:54] <Kaelten> well its the user uploaded images that come off the static ones
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[22:26:49] <asmodai> Kaelten: btw
[22:27:02] <Kaelten> maybe some of you guys can give me an idea
[22:27:11] <asmodai> Kaelten: normal OneBag is now out of date and OneBag3 not in the curse list of addons with the client
[22:27:34] <asmodai> Kaelten: if I force load OneBag, it works
[22:27:44] <Kaelten> I have a db server thats spending ~ half its time waiting
[22:27:47] <Kaelten> on disk io
[22:27:50] <asmodai> :|
[22:27:51] <Kaelten> can anyone give any ideas
[22:27:53] <asmodai> seriously?
[22:27:56] <asmodai> that much?
[22:27:56] <Kaelten> seriously
[22:28:13] <Kaelten> ya its not good at all
[22:28:17] <Kaelten> I need to figure out why
[22:28:22] <asmodai> anything you see in top or iostat or so?
[22:28:40] <Kaelten> I see between 20-60% wa in top
[22:28:40] <asmodai> If it is Linux I might not be the most useful person
[22:28:43] <asmodai> I'm a BSDer
[22:29:02] <asmodai> with wa being wait state?
[22:31:14] <Kaelten> right
[22:31:15] <Kaelten> avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
[22:31:16] <Kaelten> 13.26 0.00 22.62 40.83 0.00 23.28
[22:31:20] <Kaelten> as per iostat
[22:34:25] <asmodai> ok
[22:34:34] <asmodai> so it is really stalling on the IO wait
[22:34:50] <asmodai> could it be some sort of lock or other lag with the driver to the disks?
[22:34:54] <asmodai> or the controller?
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[22:36:11] <asmodai> tee hee hee
[22:36:22] <Kaelten> not sure
[22:36:25] <Kaelten> it doesn't make sense
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[22:39:30] <asmodai> it doesn't no
[22:39:39] <asmodai> but like I said, a bit out of my league here with Linux
[22:39:47] <asmodai> I'd be better to do BSD :(
[22:40:16] <steg> people still use that?
[22:41:17] * asmodai shoots steg, carefull and precise
[22:41:23] <asmodai> carefully
[22:41:29] <steg> :(
[22:49:07] <asmodai> muakaka
[22:50:03] <asmodai> that's odd curseprofiler 2.0 shows as outdated in the addon list
[23:01:53] <asmodai> Kaelten: finding any other responses?
[23:02:09] <Kaelten> not really
[23:03:32] <hads> Anyone played with Cherokee?
[23:04:09] <asmodai> hads: the webserver? messed with it a bit
[23:04:12] <asmodai> made me feel meh
[23:04:21] <hads> Yeah
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[23:04:53] <hads> SSL virtual hosts sounds interesting
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[23:21:30] <Leonidas> how should SSL virtual hosts work?
[23:23:53] <asmodai> painfully
[23:24:01] <asmodai> Can't be nothing else but a hack :)
[23:27:33] <asmodai> Kaelten: thank the guys who just updated the curses profiler :D
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[23:36:52] <boorad> hi all, will Zine have pygments support for blog posts w/ code in them?
[23:36:56] <boorad> or does it already?
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[23:49:10] <Leonidas> boorad: ronny uses it in his blog.
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